I am impressed with his views and his willingness to put forth a plan rather than spout generic political phrases that the rest of the candidates spew out.

 

 I like his 999 plan. The money we save with a smaller IRS would go a long way towards pulling us out of the dept hole.

Almost a month since my last post and Cain is still my choice. He is in the lead now, so everyone will be comeing after him. I hope he can hold out until the election. Imagine the kind of pressure that would be everyone trying to bring you down.

 If he lasts then I think he has the mettle to be president.

It is nice that he's had to meet a payroll, understands the ramifications of taxing and regulating businesses to death. Congress has over 500 people supposedly representing us and how much spending and waste have they reeled in?

An alternate view. Commentary on Herman Cain starts at 3 min. into the video

 

Herman Cain Sexual Harassment Accusations: GOP Presidential Candidate Denies Politico Report


GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain has denied a report alleging that he sexually harassed women during his time as head of the National Restaurant Association.

Politico released a story Sunday evening, noting that at least two female employees made complaints about Cain:

During Herman Cain’s tenure as the head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group, multiple sources confirm to POLITICO.
The women complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Cain that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the restaurant group that gave them financial payouts to leave the association. The agreements also included language that bars the women from talking about their departures.


In a statement given to the Associated Press, Cain's campaign labeled the Politico report as "dredging up thinly sourced allegations" from his tenure at the trade group. Spokesman J.D. Gordon told the AP that the claims include "unsubstantiated personal attacks", adding that the press is "casting aspersions on his character and spreading rumors that never stood up to the facts."

Cain's camp entered Sunday riding an Iowa high. A key Des Moines Register poll unveiled on Saturday shows the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza in a virtual tie with rival Mitt Romney for the lead in the GOP 2012 primary.

Polls aside, Gordon addressed the allegations in a Sunday night interview with Fox News' Geraldo Rivera. The veteran host pushed Cain's spokesman on the charges, urging him "to say something publicly right now."

"These two sources aren't even named in the piece and it was from a third party," Gordon replied.

"Are you denying it ever happened, J.D. Gordon?" Geraldo asked.

"What I'm saying is that these are thin allegations, that this is non-sourced," Gordon answered. "And so right now, we're just trying to put this into perspective for you -- that this is not even a sourced allegation."

Herman Cain is yet another GOP propagandist and the flavor-of-the month for the discriminatory T-Pers. This is why he's shot up in the polls. Watch him plummet like Bachman, Perry, Trump etc. The T-Per's are a fickle group and they're driving the Republican Party into disaster.

Back to the person in question:

Cain exploits the simple minded who are unwilling to find out the facts -
"999" is a buzz-word/jingle that is proven to be unsupportable and fully favors the wealthy/corporate America at the total expense of the middle-class/poor.

Cain hasn't run a business for more than a decade - He got out before the Bush-induced economic crisis set in, thus he has little experience running a business in this economy.

Cain was most recently a Washington lobbyist - He's totally plugged into the Washington machine, so it's doubtful he's going to do what's right for America unless you have a lot of money and corporate power.

Cain believes it's the fault of the unemployed that they're unemployed. Really? How many people do you know who are out of work and enjoying it, not trying to find work, and it's their fault that they aren't working? He's insensitive and clueless. His cafeteria style approach to government resembles what many Republicans work from - Less government, as long as it doesn't affect MY world! It's okay to take things away from others, but not from me! Such hypocrisy!

And, hey how about Cain's social issues stance? He'd like turn back the clock to the1950's, but oh, has he forgotten what it was like to be African American in the 1950's?

Frankly, NO President can fix what ails us. CONGRESS has the AUTHORITY over matters of the economy and they must at least create conditions that allude to a possible economic recovery. But they won't. The Republican-held Congress has made it clear that their mission is one of politics (make Obama a one-term President), and NOT one of doing what's right for Americans!

I agree that Congress is the main problem. To say it is the Republican side of the current Congress is not true in my opinion. It wasn't the Republican Congress that got us into the housing crisis which in turn crashed the economy. You can thank Barney Frank and his friends for that. Not my opinion, it is the fact. Another example is they all scream about foreign oil dependency but fail to do anything to change it.
Look at California and the many, many years of Democrat control and you can easily see that Democrats have failed here. This means they have failed US - you and I.
Facts?:
Businesses are leaving if they haven't already left. High taxes and over regulation. Tax money given to and supporting people here illegally. California is well-known for its poor business environment which translates into no jobs. This in turn leads to no revenues so the rest of us get hit with higher taxes. The big issue is both parties fight and are not interested in you and I. We, all of us, need to toss 'em out and remind all leaders both State and Federal they work for us and need to represent US.
Most of us that have differing views can sit down and work together for the best possible solution for all. The people we have put in place to do this can't or won't so we need to remove them.

So, back to Herman. You'd vote for him? Watch this and ask yourself if he has what it takes. If this were my preseident, I'd be ashamed. Look ahead to a "what if he was elected" scenario to see if the person who gets the attention today is really worth the trouble tommorrow. http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/politics/2011/11/14/tsr-cain-libya-milwaukee-journal-sentinel.cnn

make that "President", sorry for the typo, blame it on the keyboard not the writer......

I am wondering why the hell anyone would vote for that guy. He doesn't seem to be very savvy when it comes to some of the most basic issues. That on top of the sexual harassment allegations. he just doesn't seem like a complete candidate. Honestly in the Republican field it seems as if the best choices are being overlooked due to them not being right wing extremest. What's wrong with being middle of the road?

It seems the sexual harrasment claims were settled because it was cheaper to pay than to fight it in court. That is the way most companies settle law suites now and to have a settlement paid out is not an admission of guilt.

 

 Every one has brainfarts and says things wrong. How many times has Obama been called Osama? Look how often I miswrite something here. Or things on this site are taken the wrong way.

 

 I think that Cain is the least political candidate that the repuplicans have and I think he will make decisios he thinks are best for the country and not for his re-election.

 

 Regardless of who is elected we have to make our individual selves stronger and more stable. If we rely on the government to fix our proplems then we give up more than just our power, we give up our very selves and become less than what we truly are.

Are you kidding?

Scandals, lack of understanding domestic/international issues (oops, I mean "brain farts") and loony economic solutions dished up as jingles are the least of his problems -

He will make decisions that are best for the 1%, not the 99%! If that's what you want, well, go right ahead and support him, but don't complain about what you suffer down the road...

I don't think it much matters - He's toast!

While I agree with you on self-dependency, not everyone is equipped, educated, gifted, healthy or financed enough to do so, thus, we NEED our government help those less fortunate. You'll have chaos and anarchy without a certain level of democratic oversight. Why? Because what's a problem to one is an opportunity to another and the less fortunate will be taken advantage of. Having a government doesn't mean you have to give up power or become less of an individual. That's crazy talk. We're a democracy and, if practiced fairly, we all become more empowered and there's a level playing field for everyone. Isn't that what you want for our society?

BTW, your mention of confusion over Obama and Osama, isn't just a simple linguistic error. It's a mean-spirited notion of wrongly linking the President to terrorism and a religion that many don't understand and fear. It's just shameful!

 People on welfare become dependent on the government. It is not the desire of the people to become dependent it is just human nature.

 If you recieve money you don't want to jeapordise your source of income.I don't think it is a great plot to keep people down it is just the natural course of the government program.

 

 I rember Obama being introduced as osama and he had to correct the announcer. There was no malice it was a simple slip of the tounge.

 

 Cains last flub was in an interview for a news paper and he was not ansewering in a soundbite ready format.

 

 My main reason for supporting him is he is not a politician. We need someone in office that is not going to roll over and play poilitics. That is for all offices not just the president.

 

 

 Every citizen has the power to improve themselves. We are a great people and there is always someone there to help. But people must struggle to improve.

 

 It is like a butterfy. If you help a butterfly out of its cocoon it can not fly. It needs that struggle to pump blood into its wings so it can fly.

 

 I do the same thing for my kids. It is hard because I want to make it as easy as I can, but unless they do it themselves they will not gain the recorsfulness and self confidence to succeed.

 

 Last note. I miss spell check.

"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to
prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed,
and are right."  

 

H. L. Mencken

UTC,

I'll refrain from further debating Cain because it's a moot discussion.

However, your philosophical points on human nature, government dependency, welfare, self-improvement, etc. are, at best, over-generalizations and insensitive considerations -

Do you really believe that a recently-divorced woman, living at the poverty level, with three children, who hasn't worked for several years because she's been busy being a mom, shouldn't get some government help or assistance?

How about the 85 year-old man, who worked all his life? Do you think he shouldn't receive SS or Medicare? Some view these programs as a form of welfare.

What about the veterans returning home only to find few or no jobs waiting for them? Should they not be given a boost by government assistance?

How about individuals with physical and mental disabilities? How do they "improve" themselves? How are they to get by without depending upon the government to help them?

Giving youth a hard push to launch into life is not the same as expecting any of the above-mentioned examples to "do it themselves" and succeed.

Frankly, it's heartless to think that helping people is a "great plot." I think your belief system is a primary example of why our society is seriously failing and why we have the 1% versus the 99% - We're willing to let people suffer at any cost, turn our back on those in need and blame everything on the government, yet we happily collect our SS and Medicare, covertly push corporate welfare via the political crooks we support/elect and pray for the poor on Sunday!

I hope you find your heart this Thanksgiving and acknowledge that many of the unfortunate need it.

 I was speaking in a general sense. Any one that needs help should get it. The danger lies in becoming dependant on that help and not trying or being afraid to try to get off of the help until it is taken away and then you are worse off than when you first needed the help.

 

  I do not believe it is a plot on the part of the government to try to keep people dependent on social programs. It is just the natural result of the program.

 

 In the case of Social Security. Most people on that program have paid directly into it. In the case of Veterans they gave of themselves for the country and the country is returning the favor.

 

 As for the recently divorced mother the country invests funds into her to finish raising her kids to be productive members of society and to help train her to become self providing in time.

 

 We can go into so many ways in how the government fails the people. We are paying so much more money per student than we were even ten years ago and the quality of service at schools has dropped to sad levels.

 

 I remember when the school had pencils and papers and provided transportation to sports events and there were music classes and wood and metal shop as well as auto shop.

 

 Every bit of money that the teachers union gets comes from the education budget. It is filtered through teachers, but it still comes from the state and federal budget and from our pockets.

 

 Are the teachers better off?

 Are the students getting a better education?

 How can we make it better?

 

 Just to set a qualifier. I love many of the teacher I had in school. They gave so much of themselves to try to get something through my thick head. Some of it stuck and we owe it to the teachers try to make the schools better for them and we have to do it with something other than money.

 

 Sorry to run off topic and to ramble about my points and my spelling. 

I think the question is where do we go from here? We have a Congress that can not and will not pull in spending. We have President that is running for office that promised to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term and instead has created our largest debt ever seen. He may or may not be responsible for for it; he is responsible for not doing anything to make it better. Congress can override any President so Congress is our problem. We need to vote them out. All politicians need to be reminded the American people are their boss. Vote for the person that best represents your ideals and goals for a politician.
As far as social programs, I think all of us are for programs that help people up; not programs that become a way of life like our current welfare system. Playing devil's advocate, should the government be responsible for the 85 retired man? I don't know: He had 60+ years to get ready to retire. Is it the government's problem he didn't prepare? I don't know, I'm asking. Part of me says yes and part of me says no. Why is it society's issue to take care of someone who has no retirement due to dope, alcohol, or just plain didn't save? Why does society have to take care of a family that decides to have more kids than they can afford? Why are we spending so much money on illegal aliens (programs, jails, etc)? Some say they will do jobs the residents won't do; I know many people that picked fruit, worked construction, did lots of rough low-end jobs because they had to. Prices might change but the jobs will get done. Of course, we'll have to look at imports that undercut our own farmers and industries. We also have to address energy. Foreign or start producing domestic energy? How do we give incentives to new energy technology development without creating more Solyndras and high speed train projects?