Seams like a lot of the thread on this site at one time or a nother end up in a fight over MMJ. So why not open one dedicated to just that. It would be nice to see a place local growers can go for help or ideas. I'm sure there will be a lot of haters on here as well. But it is a open forum everyone has a opinion all is welcome. this could be used for ideas on local ordinances, such as the workshop Yuba County is working on right now on MMJ cultivation. Please be cival and avoid names and locations, remember big brother is everywhere. But your input could go a long in sculting guidlines for MMJ Cultivation in your area. This could also be used to educate those who just don't know. Seams like there are a lot of them out there that just don't have a clue on this issue. So please if you don't understand or have any questions post your concerns, I'm sure someone can help you understand. their are no dumb questions just uneducated ppl. this issue is not going away, so we all need to find a way to get along. It is in our community and a large part of our culture. So lets find a way to work together on this  

The calls you made worked!!!!
Now we need emails asking for them to draft ordinance.
Yuba City needs to allow legal MMJ cultivation.
jmdukes@comcast.net
johnmiller@valleytruckandtractor.com
T tejmann@hotmail.com and tmaan@yubacity.net
jbuckland@yubacity.net
lmcbride@yubacity.net

alienfuel said:

Seams like a lot of the thread on this site at one time or a nother end up in a fight over MMJ. So why not open one dedicated to just that. It would be nice to see a place local growers can go for help or ideas. I'm sure there will be a lot of haters on here as well. But it is a open forum everyone has a opinion all is welcome. this could be used for ideas on local ordinances, such as the workshop Yuba County is working on right now on MMJ cultivation. Please be cival and avoid names and locations, remember big brother is everywhere. But your input could go a long in sculting guidlines for MMJ Cultivation in your area. This could also be used to educate those who just don't know. Seams like there are a lot of them out there that just don't have a clue on this issue. So please if you don't understand or have any questions post your concerns, I'm sure someone can help you understand. their are no dumb questions just uneducated ppl. this issue is not going away, so we all need to find a way to get along. It is in our community and a large part of our culture. So lets find a way to work together on this  

Great idea. I hope people can keep it civil and have a meaningful discourse withiout resorting to vitriolic sniping. I meet a lot of people who want/need a site like YubaFoothills but are turned off by all the personal attacks.

Amen oracle

I believe that if you want to grow it you should be able to grow it. As you all know many of my neighbors are growers and the only thing I can complane about is the smell.

 

 My only concern was the home invaders but I think by next year the price will drop on the street with all of the growers and it will not be worth it for the criminals to target growers any more.

 

 If you want to use it, then it should be your right, however with the use of anything you should be willing to take responsability for the effects.

 

 Society will hic up and hem and haw and then we will move on to better things.

 

 I just hope we er on the side of freedom.

 

 Sorry about the spelling.

I believe it was Richard Bach (Illusions of a Reluctant Messiah) who said, "We are all free to do whatever we want, so long as we harm no one else in the process." You all get my drift I'm sure.

Wow so far this seems to be working. And i do agree it should the peoples right, now if we can find a way to get along as neighbors we may have something. I personally feel what you do on your property is none of my business, I think I am on good terms with my neighbors, and hope if they have a issue with me they know they can talk to me about it. I may be old school but i don't believe in 911. people need to police them selves. We live in a rural community and have limited resources. You really can't depend on the Sheriff Dept to do it all. People just need to relearn how to work together. Treat others as you wish to be treated, That allows me to be cool with that guy i see in the mirror everyday

just wondering does anybody know when the next Yuba county workshop meeting is to be held??? I think so far they have only had one and really don't want to miss a meeting, every voice counts

Does anybody know if the law for growing in Yuba City has changed? Can we still grow outdoors?

Rowdy said:
Does anybody know if the law for growing in Yuba City has changed? Can we still grow outdoors?

Yuba City is in Sutter county.

 

Duh.

I have been out of the loop on this issue for a bit. Anyone got any news on yuba counties ordinances?? Have they made any real changes good or bad

Today Feb 28 @ 1:30 @ Yuba County Government Center, Marysville. MMJ workshop meeting going over the ordinance. Sorry for the last min post. also tonight @ 5:30 yuba city is also holding a meeting

guess i will just have to let this thread die, either no one cares or are to scared to front them selves out. Any ways it was a good turn out at the meeting

Ijust peeked in to see I had to work and didnt even now about this workshop earlier today....oh well, anyways, so what is the the county proposed to set forth, is it he no outdoor under 1 acre, and then 12 for 1 to 2.5 acres, and 18 or 2.5 to 20acres , and so on? Must have fencing,and be secured,which it should anyways, and a few other bearable requests for what I believe is a better stance from this county than others in this state!!! Now can we all just get along.....have a wonderful year all of you out there in our ommunity!!!

So sorry for my sticky keyboard bad spelling bad grammar post u'all!!!!!

So if I guess at what you wrote, or intended to write - did you mean, "No outdoor grows under an acre; 12 plants allowed for 1-2.5 acres, 12 plants for 2-2.5 acres and 18 plants for 2.5-20 acres?"

Given these guidelines purposed by the county, there will be no arrests, etc., because the state of California is turning its blind eye to a federal law?

Dont qoute me yet or stone me for bogus voodoo ramblings now........but our county doesn't want to arrest the ywant ot work with those who arent doing all the bad things most seem to think we do, not the case and they see it too.....so yes , as i have partially read the proposed ordinance , in unincorporated Yuba county, under an acre no plants, and along with the 6 plants allowed, 1 acre to 2.5 acres can add 6 more, 2.5-20 acres, can add 12, and 20 acres or more can have 24 added, so 12 for 1 to 2.5ac, 2.5-20 ac 18, and 20ac+ 30 plants total, now I do not know if each 6 plant block or addition needs to be accompanied by another recommendation or if the patient or caregiver is the sole rec holder for all plants . Also many other factors will and do come into play with this ordinance, like at least 50ft away from another residence, property must have a permitted building on it(no vacant or absent rec holder undeveloped land grows), a fence must be built , plants cant be in view if walked up on, any fence over 6ft needs permits for upto 8ft, 1000ft distance from any youth areas(baseball fields, playgrounds, etc.), and some others , so if your on the up n up, you should be just fine, but for all these 99 planting growers so sorry, they'll just have to grow a few more years to get all that loot they must be t rying to get!!!!!
I for 1 am happy i can still have my plants without being persecuted (and prosecuted too)by my neighbors and by my county, some may see it all different but we must all stay on the same page, as we all must live here and its so much easier to just get along!!!
And California has turned a blind eye to the feds since the passing of Prop 215, why is that so surprising? someone needs to stand up to the feds, we has voters passed it and they need to start listening to the 1's that really matter, WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That sounds about right mostly. But the BOS has asked for a 30 day postponement on the ordinance for further community input. They havn't adopted the ordinance yet, so nothing has changed so far!! Most of what jollyGreenMidet has said sounds right, but the limits on plants. what i heard was 6 plants indoors for any astblished resident of any size, then 1-2.5 acres you can add 6 outdoors, 2.5-20 acres you add 12 outdoors , 20 acres + add 24 outdoor plant in addition to your 6 indoor. I could be wrong, it has happened, but that is the way i heard it. As i said they have not adopted it yet as they want 30 days for public input before they make a draft to submit

Oh yeah I almost forgot to mention what i thought was the most important point. This is a complaint driven nuisance ordinance. if nobody complains there is no reason for them to inspect you. and then if your not in compliant you be fined daily until you fix the issue. So they will give the opportunity fix it, But what i like is no complaint no inspection. So be nice to your neighbors after all we all gotta live up here

Thnaks for the info Alienfuel....and we should all be nice and friendly to neighbors anyways, thank goodness my neighbors are good and I sit above them all!!!

I have been told that if you plant a male marijuana plant in the close proximately to a marijuana patch it will ruin the crop. Is this true?

of course what is a discussion by adults about cannabis without bvjack and your insightful responses and comments? well for 1 it would be a civil discussion and oh yeah with ADULTS!! bv please leave this is not the time nor the place for your rude comments and frivilous questions, and from the tone of your question i would ponder to guess your bordering criminal intent if you attempted to or did try to do as you are asking, it would if you did to any other agricultural product on someone elses farm!!! And believe you me i would prosecute you to the fullest, and win!!!!

oh yeah mister jack, ummmm where you going to get that male plant? Do you have your recommendation?

So much for the good neighbor policy!!! I would bet if you did that to the wrong neighbor and was spotted they may not be as nice as to just take you court. And now you.v already fronted yourself out. So if anyone in your area does something like that don't ya think they are gonna blame you??? way to throw yourself under the buss!! Good point jollyGreenMidget. bvjack are you going to get your recommendation and become a grower of the very plant you hate to try any ruin a neighbors medication??

Funny how a question turned out to be close to a threat. Yeah you guys really are ADULTS when a person can't ask a question without being accused of being close to being a criminal, rude, etc. Your attitude would almost make someone go to the local pot doc and get a permit because of my bad back, insomnia, etc. and be legal to grow pot. If It happend to plant a male plant, oops sorry. lol.

As they say ..... " open mouth , insert foot".... you are the primest example of ignorance and just plain evil, and i know you get a kick out of all this too, what a shame we have to have people like you in our community or is it your community bvjack...........and another saying for you bv......."if you have nothing intelligent to say,shut up...oh sorry that was "dont say anything" , sorry about that!!!!

Oh please you really are quite the literate poster here. Don't you know that you can get your point across without stooping to rude comments. It shows you inability to make a good argument. I'm evil? you are really an example of the pot calling the kettle black. Not MYcommunity but I have lived here as a property owner for over 20 years. A new commer for some, and a long time resident for others. I know that I am not one of the people who moved here to grow pot and harrass their neighbors. Any way Midget (names seems appropriate) I won't be commnicating with you anymore since you can't have an intelligent conversation without having to belittle yourself by calling names to those of us who don't agree with you. Bye.;enjoy your high while it lasts.

:)

bvjack sabotaging someone's medicine is criminal. don't matter if you believe in medical cannabis or not. Do some research you will find those ppl caught steeling someone's medical garden is charged as if they stole their Vicodin. Meds are meds. it is what it is. you mess with meds and get caught if your lucky you end up in jail. I'm not trying to be a A&^ hole I am just stating a fact. what you suggested is criminal not to mention evil. I'm sure you have heard some of the growers up here protect their crops with force. You may want to think hard before you act on your idea

I have never had any problems with my growing neighbors. Live and let live is my motto. My religion tells me to love my neighbor. I don't even read anything that BVJack has to say it is never nice or even worthwhile. I feel sorry for him, he sounds like a miserable negetive person.

I have had nothing but good things come since the passing of MMJ I have artritis and high blood pressure. Since using MMJ I no longer use viodin or sleeping aids and my blood pressure has been great with no pharmacuticals. My friend with rheumatiod arthritis is wearing rings and able to to back to work, another person I know was in a wheel chair due to pain walking is able to walk again, a quadraplegic is no longer is depressed. If we stop allowing this to happen at a local level, it will move to other counties.eventually go to big pharmacuetical corps, tabacco corps   All property values will drop when growers sell and move to other counties or states. The revenue it is bringing is helping this area greatly. Growers buy locally. Property sells and tax revenue is up. Some grows have 10 or more sick people that can't grow it by themselves, it is very expense and without community gardens of under 100 plants they would have to drive to other counties to buy it. Keep our $$ local. Please let us know when the next meeting is we will be there.

BVJACK is just the way he is because he is 1 of the greedy marijuana growers that doesnt want to have his money disappear cause he cant grow his large crops , it is the only thing I can think of for him being such a big pain in this community, he just wants everyone to think he hates it, when really he is the most illegal greedy grower here in the foothills besides the cartel grows!!!!

Good post Frenchtownmom, That's why I started this thread, To educate ppl. Soon as i hear when the next BOS meeting will be I will be sure to post. you are correct love them or hate them growers are helping the local community revenue in all aspects

Here is the link to the proposed ordnance

http://www.co.yuba.ca.us/Departments/BOS/documents/agendas/2012/MG165850/AS165856/AS165905/AI167372/DO168456/DO_168456.pdf

Link to Scheduled Board Meetings
http://www.co.yuba.ca.us/departments/bos/documents/Meeting%20Schedule%202012.pdf

Aww frenchtownmom..If you knew me you would love me. Don't believe everything you read about me from alienfuel and the MIdget. If you would read my first post you would see that I asked a question because I heard that it was true. I have, nor have I ever had, any intention of hurting anyones crop of pot. If it is legat to grow it then it is legal to grow it. Since the question was asked I have been called names, and assumption made that I would commit a crime. If you knew me you would know that I would be one of the last people who would commit a crime. It appears Alienfuel and the MIdget have more than concerns than a small pot grower would have, but since I don't know them I can' say for sure. Anyway Frenchtownmom, peace..I'm not after any pot growers, I am not a pot grower, and I don't have anything against people who use if for medical reasons.

March 01, 2012 12:05 PST

Santa Ana, Calif. (AP)

A California appellate court has ruled that cities cannot use nuisance ordinances to ban medical marijuana dispensaries, further adding to the confusion about how municipalities should regulate clinics protected under state law.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/03/01/state/n120528S18.DTL#ixzz1ntsn7fqQ

A good model for a dispensary here in our county would be , Good Karma in Lucerne, and even Golden state in Colfax,,,,,,just cant imagine though that this county would ever allow patients their rights to meds from a brick n mortar, now if you wante to open a pharmacy full of DRUGS, well hell just pay the dues and your good to go, well at least till your caught giving out double and triple prescriptions for ailments that none of the patients even has or had!!! But hey who cares if a pharmacist hands out his DRUGS and fills pockets handsomely, right? We live in such a head up ass society, a simple plant is condemned, but you can have a beer, wine and a couple chemical pills to take you to that other place!!!!PAETHETIC!!!!!!!!!!

I think its interesting that the dispensarys are 'sposed to be non profit. They should have to account for every gram that come through the doorand exactly who it went to, and name every grower.. no illicit growers.Those farms should be regualted and taxed.
Just like the guy who grows corn or wheat.Its not such big profit to the grower if he has to account for the income. Also keep record of every paitent that comes in. No just showing your card.no hanging out eating brownies and smokeing. I mean real records,real regulation. No bull crap Doc handing out scripts because you have cramps or can't sleep. you buy your meds you leave.You sell your crop you pay the tax. you have more than you are sposed to...you pay for that also.

Also if you get a script for thirty days worth of pills... and you eat all thirty pill the first week. your shit out of luck....you dont just get more.Thats how perscription drugs are sposed to work. thats not how pot works. you get a script and its a free for all.

Look at coloadro's dispensary system they are way more regulated and it seems to work. Why don't we adopt a system like that. All meds are accounted for & tested & taxed they have a camera system in each store tied into the sheriff's dept. they can't buy or sell non-local meds or non-organic. If more regulation is what it takes to keep the stores open. then why not try it??? Ppl need the stores counties and states need the money, everyone wins.

itsjustferkicks said:
Also if you get a script for thirty days worth of pills... and you eat all thirty pill the first week. your shit out of luck....you dont just get more.Thats how perscription drugs are sposed to work. thats not how pot works. you get a script and its a free for all.

When ppl use all pills early they just go to the streets to get more. Vicodine = $2-$3 per pill ocycodone = $5+ per pills. how safe is that???? dealing with theives and crack heads on the streets not safe. you don't know what your getting or even if they are just gonna rip you off and leave you for dead. You can't overdose smoking cannabis. Never heard of anyone smoking them selves into suiside or a murderous rage. Can't say that for pills can ya 

you are purposely misunderstanding me. If your an addict,your an addict be it pills or pot.The difference being if the proscriber of "medication" is o.kay with it or not. Is it medicine or is it fun?

Alien Fuel....I hate to tell you but you CAN overdose on pot!!! It can also kill you. My brother died of sudden cardiac arrest 27 years ago afer smoking a joint. He was a heavy user.....smoked a joint, went to bed, and died of a heart attack. And for your information.....it was NOT laced with anything, and he had no underlying cardiac issues, and no other cardiac issues or anomolies showed up on the autopsy. His official cause of death was the marijuana. so don't tell me it's so harmless!!!! Medical fact, smoking pot raises your heart rate up to 4-5 times of normal. When I was in college I was in a serious car accident. A girl came across 2 lanes of traffic and hit me head on. Guess what....toxicology showed she was stoned out of her gourd on POT. But Yeah.....it's harmless!!!!!!!!!

manywhoas said:
Alien Fuel....I hate to tell you but you CAN overdose on pot!!! It can also kill you. My brother died of sudden cardiac arrest 27 years ago afer smoking a joint.

Being stoned doesn't make pot the cause of death. Anyone can die of sudden cardiac arrest, even fruit and yogurt-eating tri-athletes.

His official cause of death was the marijuana. so don't tell me it's so harmless!!!!

Do you have a copy of the autopsy report? Every death that occurs outside the care of a doctor is legally required to be investigated by a coroner. Even if THC were capable of inducing cardiac arrest, it would be impossible to smoke enough of it.

Medical fact, smoking pot raises your heart rate up to 4-5 times of normal.

A normal heart rate is 70 to 80 beats per minute. Don't you think maybe people would notice and it would be widely published if somking pot raised your heart rate to 280 to 400 bpm? Where did you get this "Medical fact?"

When I was in college I was in a serious car accident. A girl came across 2 lanes of traffic and hit me head on. Guess what....toxicology showed she was stoned out of her gourd on POT.

Did you really have access to her toxicology screen? Doubtful. What else was she consuming? All you have posted here is wildly hysterical, unsubstantial claims of very dubious value.

There is a meeting tonite at 6:00 PM but I don't what is on the agenda. Next meeting March 13 9:30 AM and then 9:30 AM on the 27th. Please pass this on, I will try to find out the agenda for these meetings. I do have to work so if anyone already knows please post and save me some time.

ednum5, thank you I was also going to comment on manywhoas propaganda talk, and the numerous myths manywhoas is preaching.....LOL
manywhoas, so sorry about your family, and so sorry someone hit you, but as stated by ednum5, I have never heard of a documented death due to cannabis, and many have tried that theory and it has not held up anywhere, I onlyknow this as I have asked numerous doctors and researched many medical cases , and nothing, go ask your doctor before spouting misinformation, and a doctor from 27 years ago is not a reliable source for an argument, even the medical board Nixon hired told him the same ,they couldnt find anything wrong with cannabis and it does and will always have medical value.
Now as far as this driver hitting , you, unless you sued this person and prosecuted them, how can or would you even have access to sealed medical records of any individual? Again unless you got a court order to see this "toxicology " report, you did not see it , and are just making up propaganda just like our government.
Show us where you saw the facts on heart rate as well, and if you do 1 that isnt sponsored by a pharma corp, bet you cant!!!
Again sorry for your heartaches in life but dont go blaming cannabis, and certainly dont go spouting misinformation ,we get enough of that from bvjack , our government , and the media!!!!!
Why waste some much time and energy blaming and argueing aboutcannbis when meth , pills and alcohol are the worst out here...but of course we are fueled by doctors handing out pills to ever dick and jane, all for the almighty dollar(but no one seems to think this is wrong), and then we have all these lovely holes in the community that cater to drunnks, but have any 1 of thesesestablishments ever beeen heald responsible when their patrons gpo out and kill someone here in oir community, NO, and does anyone care, NO, becasue alcohol is an accepted thing here, whata real joke, man it would be such a wonderful area if we got rid of the bars around here, but that would piss 80% of the community off, and we can have that, much easier to run the growers out who spend lots of money, makes sense doesnt it??
Closed minded people have ruined everything!!!!

manywhoas said:
Alien Fuel....I hate to tell you but you CAN overdose on pot!!! It can also kill you. My brother died of sudden cardiac arrest 27 years ago afer smoking a joint. He was a heavy user.....smoked a joint, went to bed, and died of a heart attack. And for your information.....it was NOT laced with anything, and he had no underlying cardiac issues, and no other cardiac issues or anomolies showed up on the autopsy. His official cause of death was the marijuana. so don't tell me it's so harmless!!!! Medical fact, smoking pot raises your heart rate up to 4-5 times of normal. When I was in college I was in a serious car accident. A girl came across 2 lanes of traffic and hit me head on. Guess what....toxicology showed she was stoned out of her gourd on POT. But Yeah.....it's harmless!!!!!!!!!

Anyone can tell a story to fit their needs. No matter what the issue is. Showing facts are a bit harder. I am also guilty of this, as i don't take the time to prove my statments. 

manywhoas sorry for the lose of your brother. but you said it yourself in your own words, "smoked a joint , went to bed, and deid of a heart attack." So fact is he used many times before, but yet you cannabis for his heart attack.

As for your crash. I never said it was safe to use at all times. Fact is thousands more die every year due to cellphones / alcohol / pills ,

Oh sorry when i said you can't overdose on cannabis I was wrong. You can't OD smoking, but you can using edibles. Although i have nevrer seen that happen

Cannabis is not the answer for everyone. But for some it is the only answer. You have the right to choose not to use it. those that need it should have the right to use it.

     

I totally agree with you jolly. And you can bet the robberies are by meth, heroine or pill addicts not cannabis smokers. The thieves are out for profit along with the cartells.

Midget said "Again sorry for your heartaches in life but don't go blaming cannabis, and certainly don't go spouting misinformation ,we get enough of that from bvjack , our government , and the media!!!!! " Please show me where I "spouted misinformation" in this topic. I can handle you not caring for my comments, although I only asked a question to begin with. I have reread what I have written and see nothing that could be classified as misinformation. Should you find something that is misinformation call it to my attention and I will apologize. If not I expect the same from you.