I heard rumor there were 3 dogs killing sheep on Wolf Trail recently. Does anyone know about this and whose sheep? I have pregnant ewes and am worried, I live on Wolf Trail.

At Cabela's we got a wild game field camera ($150) that runs on batteries and records to a small digital disk any movement for 12 hours. It has night vision and so gets all movement at night. We have an offending racoon that I wanted to capture offending. Works great, just hooks on anything with a strap. You might want to invest in it if the sheep are in an enclosed area. It has 500-800 ft range or something like that. Does a great job. At least if dogs get in you will have them dead to right. Then I would put a collar with a bell on at least a couple of sheep and sleep with your window open so you can hear it ring madly if the dogs do come. And as a last resort - I would have ole' betsy ready and loaded.

spmom, please check your private messages...

I also live near there. Where is this happening? and do we know who owns these dogs?

Thus far, as being reported to me, up to four sheep have been killed, with several hurt to varying degrees. Its been several weeks since the last attack (two attacks total so far). Three dogs were observed during the second attack and they (dogs) appear to be coming from the Wolf Trial road area and attacking towards the South (South of Wolf Trail Road). Yuba County Animal Control has been on site to investigate and take their report.

Make that 3 . They have also attacked goats on wolf trail. The owners of the goats might know who the dogs belong to.

Sorry to hear that...
The owners of the goats should report their findings or suspicions to animal control. Maybe they can piece everthing together to find the responsible party.

Animal control has been involved with this incident.

Well, lets hope they can tie the two events together...

how could anyone have dogs this mean

curlybaby: Unfortunately it's often not about being mean...it's about pack mentality. These could be someone's "loving" family pets, but when they get out instinct takes over and the chase is on. It can't even be considered sport, domestic dogs don't "think" that way and it's not about survival unless their owners are starving them. Doesn't make it right and I feel your pain and anquish. When it's figured out who they are and who they belong to it's very likely that they will be put down and maybe the owners will also feel pain and hopefully a little guilt for letting them run loose.
A neighbor's Rotties were taken and euthanized last year when they ran my mare down in her pasture. These dogs had a history in our neighborhood. The Sheriff and Animal Services came up, went to the neighbor's, took the dogs (the neighbor threw up his hands and said he'd had it and to take them) and that was it. This guy didn't seem bothered about it all by then. Sad end for the dogs.

my answer to yours is when your loving family dogs come home covered with blood and wool in there teeth, not once but twice i would have to say oops we have a problem... i have dogs if they were to run loose and came home with blood on them down they would go. who ever owns these dogs knows what they do. they do not care. curley was my pet he did not run form these dogs, beacuse i raised him with ours he was such an easy target for them that makes this very scary. yes there mean dogs. there ownes should be put down with them. they know what there dogs do.

curleybaby said:
my answer to yours is when your loving family dogs come home covered with blood and wool in there teeth, not once but twice i would have to say oops we have a problem... i have dogs if they were to run loose and came home with blood on them down they would go. who ever owns these dogs knows what they do. they do not care. curley was my pet he did not run form these dogs, beacuse i raised him with ours he was such an easy target for them that makes this very scary. yes there mean dogs.  they know what there dogs do.

 

I agree with Arpkell, it is a pack mentality issue,the dogs would kill in the heat of passion and there are no mean dogs,just irresponsible owners who should not have allowed the dogs to roam .Iam sad for the sheep and it breaks my heart... my sympathies to you,Curleybaby.

i agree with u both on the fact that yes it is this packmentality, but also the owners know what they do, and should do somthing about them.

Rest assured, pack mentality or not, loving pets or not, I catch dogs doing that kinda stuff in my area and they are HISTORY. One strike and they're out. I don't bother with animal control.

As much at it anquishes me.... and it truly does... the offending animals have to be dealt with. I'm gradually eliminating the marauding dogs in my area. The coyotes pretty much clean up the mess.

The sad thing is that someone else has to take responsibility for doing the right thing to the offending dogs and not the owner who has the responsibility to take care and make restitution. Our neighbor's dog killed three of my chickens and I caught it with chicken in mouth and called animal control who came and got it. The owner came looking for his dog, even offered money for my chickens. Hardest thing I have ever done. He had ample opportunities before the last chicken to take care of his dog. I felt bad for months, still feel bad. Once the chickens were all gone, perhaps he would have gone after the cats or the humans, I couldn't take that chance. No one should have to take responsibility for another person's animals. I know how hard it must be easy_t to do what you do.

i do wish someone would do the right thing.

i heard somthing about a reward for these 3 dogs anyone know anything about this, did the dogs strike again? if so somthing realy needs to be done. people need to not sit by and let this keep going on. wow

curleybaby: I never meant it to sound like I was defending these dogs or their owners. I completely understand your concern and anquish. I hope they are caught or the owners step up and do the right thing.

the best way to keep dogs from attacking sheep is to make your fence much more difficult for dogs to go under or over. a wire with about 2 inch standoff about 2 inches off the ground and one at top of fence at least 6" off the fence, both stood off towards the outside, with a good strong fence charger (and ground) will keep dogs including coyotes out. This is a suggestion from the local US game trapper Matt Kinkaid. 

well ty matt, we do have a very good fence around our prop, maybe the dog owners are the ones you should be speaking to about fences. see its this kind of stuff that upsets me, our animals were in there own prop when they were torn apart.

Dogs get one chance on our places and then that's it. Unfortunately some people think that since they move to the "country" that it's ok just to let their dogs roam free and easy, I feel for the dogs because they don't know any better, but the poor sheep don't have any type of defense against predators so owners need to protect them.

Something else to consider regarding this subject; with the influx of new (city) people relocating into the area specifically to grow their "weed", are they not bringing along dogs to protect their crops?
I have to agree with "curleybaby’s" premise. It's shouldn't be the property owner's responsibility to spend big $$$ to keep domestic type animals out; that responsibility should fall exclusively on the dog owner(s).
[As a side note]: As a multiple dog owner (went from two to three dogs), I specifically watch for any signs of the so-called "pack mentality". Knowing dogs will be dogs; it's my responsibility to watch for this kind of thing and ensure my dogs are fully contained 24/7 regardless. Of course, type of breed plays a factor too, as well as, ratio of males to females (my experience).
Again, I think our new challenge is the transit “weed” farmers and their dogs protecting their crops.

a lil info to all who don't know.. California is a fence in state witch means you keep your own damn animals fenced in your own damn property!!! look it up people!!

soo... did anyone bother to take the time to look it up???? i bet the owners of them damn dags took the time to look it up.

what is the reward up too anybody know?

really..your going to throw this into the weed issue. I have lived in the country most of my life, people always dump pets or move fom the city thinking they can let their dogs..or cats..roam, long before weed was a issue...same as the gun thread..the noise is disturbing...really?

Yep, lived in the country for long time too, just not this area; and yes, city folks do have habit of dumping their unwanted pets in rural areas. However, these are usually single events (one animal/dog at a time) and under your theory, all these now stray dogs would eventually “pack up”; not likely. Yes, there are still long time residents of the area that still refuse to contain their dogs, so now it looks like we have a combined issue of stubborn local residents and the influx of transit weed growers. BTW, I mention the “weed” scenario based off personal experience on what’s going on in my immediate area.

My theory? I did'nt have a theory just wondered why a reacurring problem for years is being blamed on":weed" .I had 160 acres in west rosevi;;e and shot many a dog killing my sheep..finially gave up the sheep! Not right but just tired of it...and there was no weed around, guess I am just tired of blame being tossed around. It is irresponsible people...all walks of life!